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Sources:
Salinas v. Texas- https://bit.ly/31nyXF9
Berkemer v. McCarty- https://bit.ly/3gcm7B9
United States v. Arvizu- https://bit.ly/3yCZL3j
Alabama v. White- https://bit.ly/3vTiAOX
Fla. Stat. § 784.048- https://bit.ly/3vPwdPf
Stalking Jury Instructions- https://bit.ly/3beQsMN
Fla. Stat. § 493.6101- https://bit.ly/2ZuvCqv
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how good of a private investigator he is lol
I believed you misstated the requirements for reasonable articulable suspicion. While you are correct that the officer does not have to be able to home in on precisely the crime he thinks is happening, he does have to have more than the wholly nonspecific "something illegal is going on." If he has no specificity, then he is operating on the "hunch" that was made clear to be insufficient in Terry.
When I speak of specificity, as an example, the officer has to believe some level of theft is occurring. The officer doesn't have to be absolutley specific as to whether the theft is larceny, simple theft, car prowling or grand theft. With reasonable articulable suspicion that some level of theft is taking place, the officer can investigate to determine whether he has probable cause to believe a theft is taking place and which class of theft the perpetrator should be prosecuted for. In Terry, the officer had the articulable suspicion that Mr. Terry was preparing to steal from a store. He didn't know whether he was planning to commit strongarm robbery, armed robbery, B&E and burglary or shoplifting, but he homed in on the reasonable suspicion that some type of theft from a business was actively being planned.
If the only thing an officer needs is the extraordinarily broad belief that "something criminal" is occurring, officers could stop just about anyone anywhere at any time. There are so many laws on the books that if an officer wanted to find a crime, he can.
Don’t forget the battering police get if they DON’T follow up a stalking report and then something terrible happens as has sadly been the case several times. I don’t think the police were in the wrong in this particular video.
If he would have informed them he was a private investigator they could have very well have compromised his investigation by notifying the woman he was investigating. He's a former law enforcement officer. He obviously knows the cops can't be trusted
another ass who needs attention and youtube vids. bet he was a jerk cop. all the officer were nice. if u were an ex cop why not be nice n just show ur pi license instead of giving them such a hard time?… ill tell ya why…. to make a stupid youtube video…. guy seems like a real jerk to me.
It would seem to me that he possibly concealed his motives (being a Pi) to protect his own investigation. If he had he may of had a bleeding heart officer inform her that "yes hes following you, or running an investigation" and potentially ruin his investigation and the integrity of his policy and business reputation. This could stem from experience as an l ex officer himself.
Ok… this time..
And I am anti cop…
They had RAS. "Im being stalked"
Cops can absolutely investigate. They didn't need to do anything more to explain themselves. Somebody said that YOU are stalking them. Good enough. They can investigate. There's a victim here, or someone claiming they are. Done.
And keep in mind they can lie a bit at that point. "We didn't say you, we said a vehicle matching your description"… Totally allowed. They could have definitely charged him for a bunch and it could have been upheld.
This guy is still a stalker. I dont care if he is a private investigator.
Lol she noticed this bonehead following her from the start. He might want to rethink his job as a PI
Thanks for exposing the corrupt
Him to say he was private eye the word would have went back to the woman involved ruining he is observing
Sometmes these people are just pricks.
This cop is 💯 right with the stop. Stalking is a crime and a call by the person he's stalking is reasonable suspicion.
The crime? Stalking. The reasonable suspicion? I personally observed you following the person who told us you were stalking them.
Crime. Reasonable suspicion.
All that needed to be said.
Run the licence plate. Investigation ended.
Stalking is kinda creepy.. Man dude, if you're a PI, be a bit more PRIVATE in your investigating! But yeah, I'll still give you kudo's for calling the oinky-oinky cop out…
I think the cops should have got a C and not a B, because if the investigator had not been so well-informed, they damn well WOULD have trampled on his rights.
The private investigator was right in not giving up his identity; lest any of the cops inform the subject she's under investigation, which would harm his investigation.
He could not have identified himself as a PI, without identifying himself. So that is a catch 22.
As always with these videos the presenter loves to cite case examples but it's verbose and boring. I gave up after 7 minutes. Americans are so litigious and they seem to cite various amendments to their constitution at the drop of a hat. And don't they love the word articulable. Ironically the vast majority are inarticulate.
Not cooperating? Cooperation requires two things; a mutual goal between two or more parties. I don’t think Mr. Hoffman has the goal of providing information to law enforcement officers.
He did a good job asserting his rights, but gets a B for not sharing information about himself? That seems a little off, to me. His occupation is as much their business as his social security number. And, professionally speaking, one of the officers could be related to his subject, and would put his investigation at risk.
Furthermore, a terry stop doesn’t require reasonable suspicion; it requires reasonable articulable suspicion, and although AtA is correct, I think that’s an important distinction to make.
He gets an A+ in my opinion.
Very good
“Well Policed Society “ the classic oxymoron
Big red truck? Nice stealth move gum shoe
Spying in a bright red truck 😂
That dude that walked away first totally missed everything he said
Asking for ID is just lazy investigation by police. They dont want to do a proper investigation so they just try to bully your ID instead.
Criminals
Well is this the case they couldn’t him out and handcuff him legally and they code not too?
The guy is just looking for trouble on purpose. A true turd.
This looks like a legit stop stemming from a complaint from a woman she was being stalked. I think the burden should be on the driver to identify as a PI
That dude is obviously an x cop he comes off as Duce bag
I am pretty sure it’s illegal to follow people ? Not sure what it’s called as far as crime though
The comment section on the original video is a fucking dumpster fire
He may be an incompetent PI otherwise his target wouldn't hace noticed him but i don't believe there will ever be a lawyer as skillful as him, the way he articulated his defense would leave scholars in shame.
Seeing a former cop get away with being this aggressive puts things into perspective. They were ironically just investigating him. Obviously anyone should be within thier rights but they seemed pretty lenient with him
Genuinely curious here, isnt harrassment/stalking RAS?
I don't get it. You can get a license to stalk people in the US, but you don't have to show it when you're suspected of stalking someone? So now the cops have to find out who he is and if he has a license to stalk?
What a jerk this guy is